Am citit articolul despre voi in evz si vreau sa va invit maine seara sau miercuri la emisiunea mea "Nimic Important" de la Antena2. E o emsiune de dezbateri de idei, si ale voastre imi plac.
sunteti niste roakeri imputit care nu aveti altceva mai bun cu viata voastra decat sa fiti sceptici... mai bn ati pleca din romania numai rau faceti...
Salut baieti, va scriu dupa ce azi am ascultat ultimele 3 podcasturi de la cap la coada, impresia pe care o am e ca va distrati de minune, multe hohote, mult hi-hi ha-ha dar si multe `` dupa cate stiu`` ``daca nu ma insel```` am auzit o chestie`` ``chestia asta imi suna`` si alte expresii care va plaseaza in zona insuficient de informati! Trebuie sa luati o decizie asupra tipului de podcast si anume il faceti cu dume ( hai sa vedem care spune poanta cea mai tare si ne radem putin) sau incurajati oamenii sa gandeasca critic cu seriozitate! Ma bucur ca existati, sa nu ma intelegeti gresit, si mie imi place sa rad cu prietenii de prostia multora dar eu nu fac podcasturi , daca tot v-ati apucat de treaba asta as vrea sa incerecati sa nu enervati scepticii care va asculta! Cum o sa va recomand eu prietenilor mei cand imi este mie greu sa va ascult de multe ori cu atata hlizeala!?Nu va cer sa fiti Richard Dawkins sau Christopher Hitchens mioritici dar nivelul discutiilor si elocventa lasa de dorit! Cristian Roman e un exemplu excelent de cum trebuie indrumati oamenii sa gandeasca critic! Bafta baieti si scuze pentru criticile cam dure dar un sut in fund e inevitabil un pas inainte!
Ilie, multumim pentru critici!
E in felul urmator, nu poti face o emisiune fiind scortos tot timpul.
Evident ca nu vom putea face o emisiune precum Cristian Roman, nu avem nici experienta lui si nici studiile potrivite.
Ce putem face este sa ne documentam cat putem de bine pe subiectele pe care le gasim si sa producem informatia.
Daca ai ascultat emisiunile stii bine ca unele subiecte nu pot fi tratate decat cu umor. Cat de serios poti sa vorbesti cu ozn-istii de exemplu?
Pe de alta parte ne place sa credem ca cei care ne asculta rad impreuna cu noi si ca avem totusi macar ceva umor.
Umorul este esential in comunicarea stiintifica, asa cum sunt si datele corecte. Si avem si multe date corecte, dar textele pregatite sunt doar un punct de pornire pentru o discutie libera.
Cu toate criticile, pentru care multumim din nou, sper sa ne asculti in continuare si chiar sa ne recomanzi prietenilor tai. Ba chiar incurajeaza-i sa ne spuna personal ce cred despre emisiuni.
Personal ascult multe podcasturi in care se rade la fel de mult ca in al nostru si sunt printre cele pe care le descarc mereu.
Tin sa va felicit pentru acest site il urmaresc cu mare interes. Ma bucur ca exista o astfel de organizatie!
Vreau insa sa va intreb daca este adevarat ceea ce se spune despre antenele montate de vodafone/ orange in blocuri la ultimul etaj ... si anume ca pot 'radia' etc... mai ales ca pot 'radia' persoanele in varsta. Eu nu stiu ce sa cred pentru ca am vazut ca multa lume din bloc este alarmata de antena de la Vodafone de la etajul 11 ... datorita careia poate cadea parul, slabeste imunitatea organismului tec
De asemenea care este pozitia dvs fata de cernobal?
Multumesc si astept cu interes pozitia dvs.
Cu respect,
Salut Ciprian.
Cum noi inregistram imediat (sambata, 25.06) si nu cred ca e suficient timp pentru documentare asupra acestei probleme, o putem introduce in episodul 21.
In mare, din ce pot gasi pe scurt nu exista dovezi serioase pentru impactul antenelor, dar poti afla pozitia noastra documentata in emisiunile viitoare.
imi cade parul de la 16 ani
acum am 31 si continua sa imi cada, prefigurandu-se o chelie
din toate partile aud ca trebuie sa-mi pun in cap scortisoara, lamaie, usturoi si tot felul de lucruri care sunt fireste baliverne dar raman uimit cati oameni cu studii si in pozitii sciale deosebite imi povestesc ca au auzit cum le-au crescut parul unor oameni cu lamaie si scortisoara etc
iau revalid si folosesc hairgrow de mai multi ani, parca se mai optise caderea dar nu cine stie ce
medicii au pareri impartite
aveti documentatii despre tratamente dovedite stiintifice despre asta?
sau sa renunt pur si simplu?
Întâmplător am aceeași problemă apărută mai târziu. Singurele chestii care se pare că funcționează sunt monoxidil 2,5% (aka Hairgrow) și ceva tratament cu numele Propecia care pe la noi nu se găsește. Monoxidil la 2,5% (pe la noi se gasește și 5%) chiar se pare ca are efecte, cu inevitabilele excepții, iar Propecia pare că ar fi destul de eficient.
Ca punct de start ți-aș recomanda pubmed cu căutări despre alopecie:
Cauzele alopeciei pot fi multiple, iar în anumite cazuri căderea poate fi cauzată de diverse micoze, dermatită seboreică etc.
În orice caz, îți recomand să te duci la unul sau chiar mai mulți medici dermatologi. Ai grijă ca unii dintre ei nu-s cei mai riguroși în gândire și ajung să-ți recomande produse scumpe doar pentru că au impresia că „nu cer ăia degeaba atâția bani”, îți spun din experiență. Înainte să dai banii pe tratamentul recomandat, dacă ai ceva dubii, caută mai multe informații despre ingredientul activ al produsului și studii despre el.
Legat de scorțișoară, lămâi, usturoi șamd, este posibil ca unele din ele să funcționeze în anumite cazuri pentru că creează un mediu acid în care micozele nu pot prospera, dar asta e doar o speculație a unui posibil mecanism posibil valabil doar în anumite cazuri. Dacă găsești ceva studii pe tema asta, chiar aș fi curios să aflu și eu.
Sper că ți-am fost de ajutor și nu uita, du-te la medic/medici dermatologi pentru sfaturi medicale. Eu nu sunt medic, deci trebuie să fii sceptic în legătură cu ce ți-am spus 😉 . Nu ai urma sfatul electricianului când vine vorba de structura de rezistență a casei, nu-i așa?
Am onoarea sa va anunt ca am descris pe site CODUL LUI BRANCUSI.Sunt de parere ca merita cunoscut,mai ales ca unii romani cu diploma n-au habar de cate scaune-s in jurul Mesei Tacerii...
Daca va place,va invit in CLUBUL INOROGILOR.
Gy.T.
am 2 intrebari pe care vreau sa vi le adresez:
- prima intrebare: exista cu adevarat hipnoza? din punct de vedere cu adevarat stiintific; cum priveste stiinta hipnoza? chiar se foloseste in medicina stintifica? chiar sunt hipnotizati oamenii sau totul se bazeaza pe autosugestie?
- a doua intrebare se refera la criza economica mondiala pe fondul supra-aglomerarii planeitei, "crestera numarului populatiei in mod exponential" ... cum priviti acesta chestiune?
Ciprian, la prima intrebare iti pot raspunde eu:
Exista hipnoza, dar din punct de vedere stiintific nu e o stare speciala asa cum pare, totul se bazeaza pe autosugestie. Se foloseste in medicina, spre exemplu in situatiile in care un pacient ce trebuie sa se opereze are alergie la anestezia necesara. Este hipnotizat si in masura in care se poate este operat pe viu.
Un om hipnotizat e un om care prin autosugestie isi duce mintea in acea "stare". Oamenii chiar sunt hipnotizati dar a fi hipnotizat nu inseamna ce crede majoritatea oamenilor ca inseamna.
Atata timp cat vorbiti cu sinceritate si mesajul este transmis totul este ok. Nu conteaza greselile gramaticale sau hohotele din care multi va critica...sunteti originali si asta conteaza. In opinia mea pastrati toate inregistrarile in lb romana. Mi-ar placea de asemenea daca ati avea mai multi invitati. Success
Ne bucurăm că ascultătorii noștri ne acceptă așa cum suntem, cu defecte și greșeli, dar asta nu-i motiv să nu încercăm să nu mai facem greșeli 🙂
Cât despre hohote, dacă ce facem n-ar fi și distractiv, nu am avea prea multe motive convingătoare să facem, nu? Sau s-ar transforma într-un fel de loc de muncă la care ne ducem cu de-a sila.
În caz că ți-ai făcut probleme că „Skeptical Reporter” ar putea înlocui „Sceptici în România”, nu este cazul să te îngrijorezi. „Skeptical Reporter” are menirea de a fi un proiect pentru scepticii de pretutindeni, cu informații utile de prin lume și ca o modalitate de a permite scepticilor nevorbitori de română să arunce o privire în România.
@Roxana. Am mentionat intrebarea ta in episodul 37 insa Miruna a promis sa citeasca cartea si sa revina cu un review + surse stiintifice si ce spun ele
Foarte interesant episodul 41.
Filmuletul cu baby yoga nu l-am putut urmari in intregime,are dreptate Miruna,e socant,dar noroc ca mintea omului se apara uneori singura,m-am gandit ca poate fi o papusa nu un copil ce invarte ea acolo.
In orice caz i-as aplica individei tratamentul acesta s-o vindec de toate bolile fie si numai pentru ca poate da idei tampite unor mame.Si una sa fie e mult.
Eram 100% convins că am discutat într-un episod despre zeolit, dar am căutat și n-am găsit nimic. (Încă un motiv să fii sceptici în legătură cu propriile amintiri 😉 ) .
O să luăm în considerare subiectul pentru următorul episod.
Am fost abordat de reprezentantul unui site de produse naturiste.
Azi la ora 12 fara cateva minute am primit un telefon de SanoNatura. Era o voce de femeie care a intrebat "Familia ******?". Nu am raspuns la intrebare, mi-am dat seama ca acea persoana nu ma cunostea pe mine sau pe cineva din familia mea, in schimb i-am pus o alta intrebare: "Cu cine vorbesc?". Doamna a raspuns ca este de la SanoNatura si a mai zis ca este o firma de produse naturiste (ea a afirma acest lucru la telefon). Alarma scepticismului a sunat imediat si am devenit incantat de telefon... abia asteptam sa aud o gogoasa de marketing!
M-am aratat interesat de te telefon, in sinea mea eram plin de satisfactie! Eram tinta unei vanzari realizata prin tehnica:"abordarea telefonica"! Abia asteptam sa fiu un sceptic incisiv iar asteptarea mea nu mi-a fost inselata!
Cand postez acest comentariu prefer sa fiu anonim (administratorii ma vor recunoaste dupa email).
Produsele care imi erau recomandate se numesc "10 Plante pentru sanatate" si "Artrosan"
10 Plante pentru sanatate: http://www.sanonatura.ro/ro/6-suplimente-alimentare
Doamna mi-a zis ca produsul este bun pentru artrita, boli de inima si diabet (sper ca am retinut bine). Atat mi-a trebuit sa aud ca sa trantesc niste intrebari sceptice!
Am intrebat-o daca acele produse au fost testate si daca sunt studii stiintifice care ii atesta calitatile. Mi-a zis ca produsul a fost testat la Institutul de Agronomie din Cluj si ca nu-mi poate oferi informatii din acele studii ci trebuie sa le solicit personal de la institut. De asemenea mi-a zis ca au un site pe care pot gasi informatiile pe care le solicit.
Mi-a mai zis ca sunt persoane care s-au vindecat sau ameliorat de diabet. Am solicitat mai multe inforamtii despre acele persoane si daca pot verifica informatia. Mi-a raspuns ca nu poate sa-mi dea informatiile solicitate fiindca nu poate spune cine sunt acele persoane (inteleg ca e normal sa garantezi anonimatul, nu am cerut nici un nume ci doream sa stiu daca intradevar imbunatatirea sanatatii acelor oameni este determinata de produs). In timpul discutiei mi-a zis ca de fapt este vorba de o singura persoana careia ia scazut glicemia iar, conform cu ce spunea doamna care m-a sunat, respectiva persoana (o femeie) nu mai are nevoie sa mai foloseasca medicamente fiindca glicemia este normala si fara acestea!
In timpul discutiei am vrut sa stiu daca nu ma voi imbolnavi daca voi lua acele medimente minune! Mi-a raspuns ca nu sunt medicamente minune si ca nu are garantia ca nu ma voi imbolnavi (raspunsul acesta a fost onest).
Discutia s-a terminat fiind "expediat" pe siteul sanonatura.ro! Imi pare rau ca nu am "torturat" bietul agent de vanzari cu alte intrebari cum ar fi "ce tip de diabet avea doamna?" sau "ce pregatire aveti ca sa-mi recomandati produse pentru imbunatatirea sanatatii?"!
Dupa apelul telefonic, am inceput o "investigatie".
Am aflat ca PROPLANTA e producatorul lor (www.proplanta.ro). Pe un search pe google am aflat ca Institutul de Agronomie din Cluj este in cadrul Universitatii de Stiinte Agricole si Medicina Veterinara Cluj-Napoca (sau acel institut este insasi universitatea?- nu am putut sa gasesc informatii pe siteul http://www.usamvcluj.ro)
Am vazut ca 10 Plante pentru sanatate contine prea multe plante ca sa aflu intr-o zi cum sta de fapt treaba cu ele!
De un singur lucru pot fi sigur, pretul acelui produs nu-si merita banii! Cu 110 RON pot cumpara 5-7 kg de afine (o cantitate mai mare de afine decat contine acea cutie)... Ma gandesc ca celalte plante nu pot fi prea scumpe.... pe unele le cunosc si stiu de unde pot sa le culeg gratis! AU iei vreun secret deosebit de extragere a unor substante deosebite?
Imi e dificil sa fac pe detectivul in modul in care am invat ca trebuie procedat pe acest site... daca dau un search pe google ca sa aflu despre afine... ajung exact unde nu vreau: pe siteurile producatorilor de afine si magazinelor online de produse naturiste! Imi puteti recomanda niste siteuri ale unor institute serioase de cercetare sau un mod de a cauta, eventual ma poate ajuta cineva in cautarea de informatii?
E prima oara cand fac o cautare sceptica de informatii si mi se pare interesant (si extrem de necesar intr-o lume mincinoasa aceste antrenament!
Locurile de munca in Romania
Felicitari pentru site, faceti o treaba buna! Cred ca veti Din pacate mi-am pierdut locul de munca dupa ce, in mod sceptic, am numarat orele de munca pe care le fac intr-o luna si am descoperit ca lucrez peste program mult mai multe ore decat mi-as fi dispus sa accept si ca am doar doua zile libere pe luna. Am plecat de la acel job (care mai era si cu program de noapte) iar acum nu am bani sa va fac o donatie! Promit ca va voi face cadou 100 ron din primul salariu (si la urmatoarele salarii) daca voi reusi sa ma reangajez (nimeni nu va dori un sceptic deci voi face pe "inocentul" si voi indura umilinte fiindca traiul in Romania ma obliga la asa ceva)!
Pe langa informatii despre SanoNatura si produsul lor cu 10 plante va cer ceva si mai important (cel putin pentru mine este) sa faceti o emisiune despre locurile de munca din Romania, exploatarea legala sau ilegala la locul de munca si trucurile psihologice pe care le folosesc patronii ca sa ne convinga sa lucram peste program (cu plata suplimentara sau fara plata suplimentara) care, aplicate pe pielea mea au functionat cateva luni pana cand nu am mai resistat si am facut acel calcul al orelor despre care am scris un paragraf mai sus!
Legat de pățania ta cu marketing-ul la telefon e chair un subiect care poate fi dezvoltat. Și o persoană apropiată mie a avut de-a face cu ceva individ axat tot pe marketing la telefon și în legătură cu niște lucruri ce sunau și mai dubios. Am să încerc să discut subiectul în episodul următor.
În ceea ce privește serviciul, din păcate, ne place sau nu, suntem uneori forțați să acceptăm situații mai mult sau mai puțin corecte/juste. Unii angajatori știu cam care sunt perspectivele unora dintre angajați și, pe baza acestor informații își permit să abuzeze de poziția lor. Situația e din ce în ce mai gravă cu cât puterea economică a angajatului e mai mică.
Pe de altă parte, dependent de situație, poate uneori nu e bine să îți execiți scepticismul vădit, uneori e mai bine să știi când să joci cu cărțile pe masă și când să le ții doar pentru tine. Sper să nu ai probleme mari în a-ți găsi un nou loc de muncă!
Legat de donație, nu trebuie să te simți vinovat sau obligat și, mai important, pune familia pe primul plan, ei au nevoie mai mută de bani decât noi, mai ales în situația în care te afli în prezent! Momentan nu avem cheltuieli cu care nu ne-am putea descurca singuri, chiar dacă le plătim din propriile buzunare. Recompensa noastră majoră e mai degrabă momentele în care vedem că mai răzbatem cu ideile noastre, că lumea ne mulțumește pentru ceea ce facem sau că lucrurile aberante care domină scena publică de la noi mai primesc câte o replică sau sceptici ca tine nu-i lasă pe cei ce răspândesc aiureli să bălmăjească necontrolați.
În concluzie, dacă te putem ajuta cu ceva cu serviciul, nu ezita să ne scrii pe lista noastră de email, iar legat de donații, nu te simții obligat. Dacă vrei să ne ajuți, mai mult ar face să răspândești vestea-n cercurile tale de cunoscuți despre noi, eventual să convingi încă pe cineva să ne asculte.
Intamplator am dat si eu peste aceasta reclama si am simtit nevoia de a le pune cateva intrebari cu privire la ceea ce pretind (voi da copy-paste):
"de ce am nevoie de o absorbtie atat de rapida?"
"Toti acei nutrienti se absorb in circuitul sangvin in 20 minute?"
"Produsul costa 60 RON si il epuizez (conform recomandarii) in 10 zile ceea ce inseamna ca este mai rentabil sa cumpar niste alimente din piata (acestea, pe langa nutrienti imi dau si energie)! Chiar e necesar sa cheltuiesc 60 lei?"
"Faptul ca se absoarbe in 20 min, adica de 5 ori mai repede decat alte produse similare, inseamna ca toate acele alte produse similare nu ne ofera nutrienti care se absorb mai repede de 100 minute (5x20min-confrm reclamei dumneavoastra)?"
(ca o paranteza intre paranteze, intrerup sirul de comentarii pentru a pune o intrebare scepticilor: care sunt vitezele de absorbtie ale nutrientilor si cum ar putea fi accelerat acest proces de absorbtie pentru ca cei de la Secom sa ne ofere un un produs de 5 ori superior din punct de vedere al acestui "parametru"? - nu ma refer la toti nutrientii fiindca e ridicol, ci la vreo 2-3 din acel produs)
"Am facut o scurta verificare pe siteul Secom.ro si am vazut ca incredientele produsului au fost testate in laborator pentru a se asigura eficienta si puritatea! Unde gasesc informatii despre acele teste (ma intereseaza in special cele care au legatura cu eficienta)?"
"cum demonstrati ca (toate/sau majoritatea din) acele substante se absorb mai repede decat aceleasi substante din alte produse similare ? Care sunt studiile stiintifice despre incrediente? Daca este adevarat ceea ce pretindeti in legatura cu viteza de absorbtie a nutrientilor, de ce am nevoie de o astfel de absorbtie?"
Tot acest sir de intrebari pe pagina de facebool a siteului farmaciata.ro a primit un singur raspuns ceea ce arata ca nu erau pregatiti pentru astfel de intrebari! Iara raspunsul lor:
" Pentru mai multe detalii, va rugam sa luati legatura cu cei de la Secom, care va pot oferi informatiile de care aveti nevoie."
Sunt curios care va fi raspunsul celor de la Secom! Ce parere au scepticii despre acest gen reclame?
V-am trimis o inregistrare cu reportofonul de la o prezentare a unui aparat minune care foloseste lumina polarizata si cromoterapia pentru a vindeca o gramada de boli (inclusiv cancer)! Sper ca veti da atentie materialelor trimise! Am luat si poze de la prezentari, o sa vi le trimit si pe acelea daca prezinta interes.
Pe siteul http://www.coursera.org am gasit cursuri oferite de unele dintre cele mai mari universitati ale lumii. Acestea sunt in format video (cu subtritare in engleza si orice poate contribui pentru a le traduce in limba romana). Sunt si materiale auxiliare la curs in format pdp, pptx etc. Cursurile pot fi downloadate.
La finalul fiecarui curs poate fi obtinut un certificat de absolvire (nu prea am inteles inca in ce conditii, abia ieri am dat peste site).
Am inceput cursul "Networks: Friends, Money, and Bytes" pentru a testa siteul! https://www.coursera.org/course/friendsmoneybytes
Sunt impresionat de calitatea lui. Se pare ca invatamantul universitar devine accesibil oricui.
Sunt in asteptarea unui curs care ma intereseaza si care va incepe in Octombrie. Cred va vor fi si altii interesati!
buna, exista vreo iesire la bere/ocazie de socializare al oamenilor care asculta la asa ceva? Mi-ar distra sa ies la un moment dat la o bere stiind ca o sa fie 100% fara ezoterie. 🙂 meetup, anyone?
Bună idee! Noi ne mai ducem ocazional la prietenii noștri de la ASUR și ne gândeam să facem un fel de Petrecere de după Apocalipsă, dar am considerat că nu avem suficiente resurse să planificăm să iasă ceva bine.
Dacă vrei, putem planifica ceva și putem anunța chiar și-n podcast. Poate într-o sâmbătă pe undeva prin București?
La fel de bine, ești invitata noastră să organizezi un meepup, noi îl putem populariza. Poate ajungem să facem un eveniment de genul Skeptics in the Pub.
Trecand prin arhiva mi-am amintit ca ati discutat acum cateva luni de treaba cu aciditatea si dieta si mi-am amintit ca analiza voastra a fost cam slaba. Am cautat si gasit niste explicatii mai interesanta si mai clare, in special asociate cu pH-ul metabolic.
Aceasta firma a sunat de nenumarate ori la bunica mea de 84 de ani si in ciuda faptului ca a spus ca nu doreste sa cumpere nimic doamna respectiva a insistat si a convins-o sa-i trimita acest produs din 10plante la un pret de 120ron si doar 100ml de continut lichid. Aceasta firma a abuzat de politetea bunicii mele si au insistat cu nesimtire sa-si vanda produsul. Cu ceva luni in urma am rugat-o pe acea doamna sa nu o mai sune pe bunica mea deoarece e fff batrana, are o pensie mica si nu doreste sa cumpere nimic. Evident, cererea mea a fost ignorata.
Va rog sa expuneti aceasta firma pentru ceea ce este, niste abuzatori si nesimtiti, ca sa nu cada si alti batrani in aceasta pacaleala.
Subiectele precum Roșia Montană sau exploatările gazelor de șist le abordăm din punct de vedere științific și încercăm să evităm răspunsurile emotive. Evident, la nivel personal avem atât preferințe politice cât și valori personale, dar, pentru un sceptic, baza oricărei discuții despre strategie sau decizie politică trebuie să pornească de la o informare corectă dpdv științific.
De exemplu, in discuțiile despre gazele de șist mulți oameni pornesc de la prezumția că apa folosită în exploatare devine inutilizabilă ca apă potabilă sau că procesul de extracție se bazează pe infiltrarea apei în pânza freatică. Însă corect ar fi să verifici întâi *dacă* aceste prezumții sunt corecte.
Hi Rowan,
There aren't any romanian podcasts in English, we're the only podcast on the market 🙂
There are many skeptical podcasts in English though, try searching for Skeptics Guide, Skeptics with a K and so on.
Thank you for saying hi, do tell your romanian friends to listen please 🙂
Rowan, we also host the podcast Skeptical Reporter, a short podcast on skeptical and science news from around the world which is in English and also contains a local news segment. It used to be weekly, but sometimes life takes up all the available time.
Nu am reusit sa vad daca ati vorbit pana acum si despre karma si destin;
Am o gramada de prieteni, amici, cunostinte cu care am ajuns sa ma contrazic pt ca ei cred in karma si destin si eu o tin una si buna ca http://instagram.com/p/bNQMNyozuz/
iar ei nu si nu;
Inteleg ca acei criminali, hoti etc au de fapt o problema la creieras si sunt setati altfel pt a putea comite asa fapte dar oamenii normali, cum pot crede ca daca cineva killareste pe altcineva, e ceva normal pt ca asa i-a fost destinat si ca ala omorat de fapt si-a primit pedeapsa dintr-o viata anterioara;
come on suntem in 2014, chiar asa de limitati sa fie atatia oameni!?! ce se intampla?!?
ma puteti ajuta cu niste surse pe care le pot sharui? in limba romana ar fi super ca sa inteleaga si bunica;
eu in engleza am gasit cate ceva dar as fi tare bucuroasa daca ati vorbi chiar voi despre acest subiect!
V-am descoperit astazi dragilor... si m-am amuzat enorm ...
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Ne bucurăm că ne-ai găsit și că ți-au plăcut episoadele anterioare. Acum că ai avut la dispoziție chiar și o sincopă la publicare din partea noastră (mii de scuze, pe viitor o să le anunțăm din timp), episoadele mai noi sunt mai bune sau mai proaste decât cele vechi?
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Apreciem susținerea și, din nou, ne cerem scuze pentru întârzieri în perioada mai-iulie (o să apară episodul 95 pe 20 iulie).
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Am o mica problema de acomodare cu umorul Mirunei. Nu umorul in sine cred ca e o problema pentru mine ci fapul ca intra peste ceilalti modelatori ai podcastului si nu ii lasa sa termine ceea ce au de zis doar pentru a face o glumita ceea ce de multe ori face ca ideea celui ce a fost intrerupt sa ramana neterminata si sa se piarda. Putina rabdare si cred ca problema poate fi rezolvata. Asa au parte si Ovidiu si Eddy de respectul cuvenit si calitatea dialogului va creste.
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Sper ca nu am suparat pe nimeni cu criticile mele si ma bucur ca o data la doua saptamani va pot asculta. Calitatea podcastului creste de la un episod la altul si asta este de apreciat. Sper ca pe viitor sa primiti si invitati in emisiune (eu unul as sari sa fac parte dintr-un episod in viitor).
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Am citit articolul despre voi in evz si vreau sa va invit maine seara sau miercuri la emisiunea mea "Nimic Important" de la Antena2. E o emsiune de dezbateri de idei, si ale voastre imi plac.
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sunteti niste roakeri imputit care nu aveti altceva mai bun cu viata voastra decat sa fiti sceptici... mai bn ati pleca din romania numai rau faceti...
Salut baieti, va scriu dupa ce azi am ascultat ultimele 3 podcasturi de la cap la coada, impresia pe care o am e ca va distrati de minune, multe hohote, mult hi-hi ha-ha dar si multe `` dupa cate stiu`` ``daca nu ma insel```` am auzit o chestie`` ``chestia asta imi suna`` si alte expresii care va plaseaza in zona insuficient de informati! Trebuie sa luati o decizie asupra tipului de podcast si anume il faceti cu dume ( hai sa vedem care spune poanta cea mai tare si ne radem putin) sau incurajati oamenii sa gandeasca critic cu seriozitate! Ma bucur ca existati, sa nu ma intelegeti gresit, si mie imi place sa rad cu prietenii de prostia multora dar eu nu fac podcasturi , daca tot v-ati apucat de treaba asta as vrea sa incerecati sa nu enervati scepticii care va asculta! Cum o sa va recomand eu prietenilor mei cand imi este mie greu sa va ascult de multe ori cu atata hlizeala!?Nu va cer sa fiti Richard Dawkins sau Christopher Hitchens mioritici dar nivelul discutiilor si elocventa lasa de dorit! Cristian Roman e un exemplu excelent de cum trebuie indrumati oamenii sa gandeasca critic! Bafta baieti si scuze pentru criticile cam dure dar un sut in fund e inevitabil un pas inainte!
Ilie, multumim pentru critici!
E in felul urmator, nu poti face o emisiune fiind scortos tot timpul.
Evident ca nu vom putea face o emisiune precum Cristian Roman, nu avem nici experienta lui si nici studiile potrivite.
Ce putem face este sa ne documentam cat putem de bine pe subiectele pe care le gasim si sa producem informatia.
Daca ai ascultat emisiunile stii bine ca unele subiecte nu pot fi tratate decat cu umor. Cat de serios poti sa vorbesti cu ozn-istii de exemplu?
Pe de alta parte ne place sa credem ca cei care ne asculta rad impreuna cu noi si ca avem totusi macar ceva umor.
Umorul este esential in comunicarea stiintifica, asa cum sunt si datele corecte. Si avem si multe date corecte, dar textele pregatite sunt doar un punct de pornire pentru o discutie libera.
Cu toate criticile, pentru care multumim din nou, sper sa ne asculti in continuare si chiar sa ne recomanzi prietenilor tai. Ba chiar incurajeaza-i sa ne spuna personal ce cred despre emisiuni.
Personal ascult multe podcasturi in care se rade la fel de mult ca in al nostru si sunt printre cele pe care le descarc mereu.
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Salut Vlad,
Drăguț articolul și relevant. Am vrea să te invităm la un interviu la noi. Ce părere ai?
V-am trimis un mail. A ajuns?
Salut Vlad,
Ai dreptate, cred ca si noi incercam sa educam oamenii despre cutiile goale.
Multumim pentru comentariul tau si sper sa te transformam in ascultator fidel
Tin sa va felicit pentru acest site il urmaresc cu mare interes. Ma bucur ca exista o astfel de organizatie!
Vreau insa sa va intreb daca este adevarat ceea ce se spune despre antenele montate de vodafone/ orange in blocuri la ultimul etaj ... si anume ca pot 'radia' etc... mai ales ca pot 'radia' persoanele in varsta. Eu nu stiu ce sa cred pentru ca am vazut ca multa lume din bloc este alarmata de antena de la Vodafone de la etajul 11 ... datorita careia poate cadea parul, slabeste imunitatea organismului tec
De asemenea care este pozitia dvs fata de cernobal?
Multumesc si astept cu interes pozitia dvs.
Cu respect,
Salut Ciprian.
Cum noi inregistram imediat (sambata, 25.06) si nu cred ca e suficient timp pentru documentare asupra acestei probleme, o putem introduce in episodul 21.
In mare, din ce pot gasi pe scurt nu exista dovezi serioase pentru impactul antenelor, dar poti afla pozitia noastra documentata in emisiunile viitoare.
imi cade parul de la 16 ani
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din toate partile aud ca trebuie sa-mi pun in cap scortisoara, lamaie, usturoi si tot felul de lucruri care sunt fireste baliverne dar raman uimit cati oameni cu studii si in pozitii sciale deosebite imi povestesc ca au auzit cum le-au crescut parul unor oameni cu lamaie si scortisoara etc
iau revalid si folosesc hairgrow de mai multi ani, parca se mai optise caderea dar nu cine stie ce
medicii au pareri impartite
aveti documentatii despre tratamente dovedite stiintifice despre asta?
sau sa renunt pur si simplu?
Întâmplător am aceeași problemă apărută mai târziu. Singurele chestii care se pare că funcționează sunt monoxidil 2,5% (aka Hairgrow) și ceva tratament cu numele Propecia care pe la noi nu se găsește. Monoxidil la 2,5% (pe la noi se gasește și 5%) chiar se pare ca are efecte, cu inevitabilele excepții, iar Propecia pare că ar fi destul de eficient.
Ca punct de start ți-aș recomanda pubmed cu căutări despre alopecie:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=alopecia
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Sper că ți-am fost de ajutor și nu uita, du-te la medic/medici dermatologi pentru sfaturi medicale. Eu nu sunt medic, deci trebuie să fii sceptic în legătură cu ce ți-am spus 😉 . Nu ai urma sfatul electricianului când vine vorba de structura de rezistență a casei, nu-i așa?
Am onoarea sa va anunt ca am descris pe site CODUL LUI BRANCUSI.Sunt de parere ca merita cunoscut,mai ales ca unii romani cu diploma n-au habar de cate scaune-s in jurul Mesei Tacerii...
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am 2 intrebari pe care vreau sa vi le adresez:
- prima intrebare: exista cu adevarat hipnoza? din punct de vedere cu adevarat stiintific; cum priveste stiinta hipnoza? chiar se foloseste in medicina stintifica? chiar sunt hipnotizati oamenii sau totul se bazeaza pe autosugestie?
- a doua intrebare se refera la criza economica mondiala pe fondul supra-aglomerarii planeitei, "crestera numarului populatiei in mod exponential" ... cum priviti acesta chestiune?
http://ortodoxiatinerilor.ro/credinta-si-stiinta/evolutionismul-ateist/17238-dictatura-pseudo-stiintei.html
M-am uitat prin arhiva repede de tot. Daca mi-a scapat si ati discutat tema asta, don't stab me.
Ciprian, la prima intrebare iti pot raspunde eu:
Exista hipnoza, dar din punct de vedere stiintific nu e o stare speciala asa cum pare, totul se bazeaza pe autosugestie. Se foloseste in medicina, spre exemplu in situatiile in care un pacient ce trebuie sa se opereze are alergie la anestezia necesara. Este hipnotizat si in masura in care se poate este operat pe viu.
Un om hipnotizat e un om care prin autosugestie isi duce mintea in acea "stare". Oamenii chiar sunt hipnotizati dar a fi hipnotizat nu inseamna ce crede majoritatea oamenilor ca inseamna.
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Atata timp cat vorbiti cu sinceritate si mesajul este transmis totul este ok. Nu conteaza greselile gramaticale sau hohotele din care multi va critica...sunteti originali si asta conteaza. In opinia mea pastrati toate inregistrarile in lb romana. Mi-ar placea de asemenea daca ati avea mai multi invitati. Success
Ne bucurăm că ascultătorii noștri ne acceptă așa cum suntem, cu defecte și greșeli, dar asta nu-i motiv să nu încercăm să nu mai facem greșeli 🙂
Cât despre hohote, dacă ce facem n-ar fi și distractiv, nu am avea prea multe motive convingătoare să facem, nu? Sau s-ar transforma într-un fel de loc de muncă la care ne ducem cu de-a sila.
În caz că ți-ai făcut probleme că „Skeptical Reporter” ar putea înlocui „Sceptici în România”, nu este cazul să te îngrijorezi. „Skeptical Reporter” are menirea de a fi un proiect pentru scepticii de pretutindeni, cu informații utile de prin lume și ca o modalitate de a permite scepticilor nevorbitori de română să arunce o privire în România.
http://www.scribd.com/ariadna%20f/d/5555965-Win-Winger-Richard-Poe-Factorul-Einstein
As vrea sa stiu opinia voastra in legatura cu aceasta "carte"
@Roxana. Am mentionat intrebarea ta in episodul 37 insa Miruna a promis sa citeasca cartea si sa revina cu un review + surse stiintifice si ce spun ele
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Multumesc pentru raspuns/(uri).Imi place mult ce faceti
Foarte interesant episodul 41.
Filmuletul cu baby yoga nu l-am putut urmari in intregime,are dreptate Miruna,e socant,dar noroc ca mintea omului se apara uneori singura,m-am gandit ca poate fi o papusa nu un copil ce invarte ea acolo.
In orice caz i-as aplica individei tratamentul acesta s-o vindec de toate bolile fie si numai pentru ca poate da idei tampite unor mame.Si una sa fie e mult.
http://mierea-de-albine.blogspot.ro/p/propolis.html#
Propolisul trateaza SIDA, hipoacuzie (si inca "doar cateva" afectiuni la a caror numaratoare am pierdut sirul si nu am mai avut rabdare sa numar)!
http://www.natura-land.ro/zeolit-protect
Tocmai am primit cadou o cutie cu zeolit! Am cautat pe internet informatii despre acest mineral si am ajuns pe siteul unui institut din Cehia:
http://www.irb.hr/eng/content/search?SearchText=zeolit
Zeolitul este chiar atat de "miraculos"?
Eram 100% convins că am discutat într-un episod despre zeolit, dar am căutat și n-am găsit nimic. (Încă un motiv să fii sceptici în legătură cu propriile amintiri 😉 ) .
O să luăm în considerare subiectul pentru următorul episod.
Am fost abordat de reprezentantul unui site de produse naturiste.
Azi la ora 12 fara cateva minute am primit un telefon de SanoNatura. Era o voce de femeie care a intrebat "Familia ******?". Nu am raspuns la intrebare, mi-am dat seama ca acea persoana nu ma cunostea pe mine sau pe cineva din familia mea, in schimb i-am pus o alta intrebare: "Cu cine vorbesc?". Doamna a raspuns ca este de la SanoNatura si a mai zis ca este o firma de produse naturiste (ea a afirma acest lucru la telefon). Alarma scepticismului a sunat imediat si am devenit incantat de telefon... abia asteptam sa aud o gogoasa de marketing!
M-am aratat interesat de te telefon, in sinea mea eram plin de satisfactie! Eram tinta unei vanzari realizata prin tehnica:"abordarea telefonica"! Abia asteptam sa fiu un sceptic incisiv iar asteptarea mea nu mi-a fost inselata!
Cand postez acest comentariu prefer sa fiu anonim (administratorii ma vor recunoaste dupa email).
Produsele care imi erau recomandate se numesc "10 Plante pentru sanatate" si "Artrosan"
10 Plante pentru sanatate:
http://www.sanonatura.ro/ro/6-suplimente-alimentare
Doamna mi-a zis ca produsul este bun pentru artrita, boli de inima si diabet (sper ca am retinut bine). Atat mi-a trebuit sa aud ca sa trantesc niste intrebari sceptice!
Am intrebat-o daca acele produse au fost testate si daca sunt studii stiintifice care ii atesta calitatile. Mi-a zis ca produsul a fost testat la Institutul de Agronomie din Cluj si ca nu-mi poate oferi informatii din acele studii ci trebuie sa le solicit personal de la institut. De asemenea mi-a zis ca au un site pe care pot gasi informatiile pe care le solicit.
Mi-a mai zis ca sunt persoane care s-au vindecat sau ameliorat de diabet. Am solicitat mai multe inforamtii despre acele persoane si daca pot verifica informatia. Mi-a raspuns ca nu poate sa-mi dea informatiile solicitate fiindca nu poate spune cine sunt acele persoane (inteleg ca e normal sa garantezi anonimatul, nu am cerut nici un nume ci doream sa stiu daca intradevar imbunatatirea sanatatii acelor oameni este determinata de produs). In timpul discutiei mi-a zis ca de fapt este vorba de o singura persoana careia ia scazut glicemia iar, conform cu ce spunea doamna care m-a sunat, respectiva persoana (o femeie) nu mai are nevoie sa mai foloseasca medicamente fiindca glicemia este normala si fara acestea!
In timpul discutiei am vrut sa stiu daca nu ma voi imbolnavi daca voi lua acele medimente minune! Mi-a raspuns ca nu sunt medicamente minune si ca nu are garantia ca nu ma voi imbolnavi (raspunsul acesta a fost onest).
Discutia s-a terminat fiind "expediat" pe siteul sanonatura.ro! Imi pare rau ca nu am "torturat" bietul agent de vanzari cu alte intrebari cum ar fi "ce tip de diabet avea doamna?" sau "ce pregatire aveti ca sa-mi recomandati produse pentru imbunatatirea sanatatii?"!
Dupa apelul telefonic, am inceput o "investigatie".
Am aflat ca PROPLANTA e producatorul lor (www.proplanta.ro). Pe un search pe google am aflat ca Institutul de Agronomie din Cluj este in cadrul Universitatii de Stiinte Agricole si Medicina Veterinara Cluj-Napoca (sau acel institut este insasi universitatea?- nu am putut sa gasesc informatii pe siteul http://www.usamvcluj.ro)
Am vazut ca 10 Plante pentru sanatate contine prea multe plante ca sa aflu intr-o zi cum sta de fapt treaba cu ele!
De un singur lucru pot fi sigur, pretul acelui produs nu-si merita banii! Cu 110 RON pot cumpara 5-7 kg de afine (o cantitate mai mare de afine decat contine acea cutie)... Ma gandesc ca celalte plante nu pot fi prea scumpe.... pe unele le cunosc si stiu de unde pot sa le culeg gratis! AU iei vreun secret deosebit de extragere a unor substante deosebite?
Imi e dificil sa fac pe detectivul in modul in care am invat ca trebuie procedat pe acest site... daca dau un search pe google ca sa aflu despre afine... ajung exact unde nu vreau: pe siteurile producatorilor de afine si magazinelor online de produse naturiste! Imi puteti recomanda niste siteuri ale unor institute serioase de cercetare sau un mod de a cauta, eventual ma poate ajuta cineva in cautarea de informatii?
E prima oara cand fac o cautare sceptica de informatii si mi se pare interesant (si extrem de necesar intr-o lume mincinoasa aceste antrenament!
Locurile de munca in Romania
Felicitari pentru site, faceti o treaba buna! Cred ca veti Din pacate mi-am pierdut locul de munca dupa ce, in mod sceptic, am numarat orele de munca pe care le fac intr-o luna si am descoperit ca lucrez peste program mult mai multe ore decat mi-as fi dispus sa accept si ca am doar doua zile libere pe luna. Am plecat de la acel job (care mai era si cu program de noapte) iar acum nu am bani sa va fac o donatie! Promit ca va voi face cadou 100 ron din primul salariu (si la urmatoarele salarii) daca voi reusi sa ma reangajez (nimeni nu va dori un sceptic deci voi face pe "inocentul" si voi indura umilinte fiindca traiul in Romania ma obliga la asa ceva)!
Pe langa informatii despre SanoNatura si produsul lor cu 10 plante va cer ceva si mai important (cel putin pentru mine este) sa faceti o emisiune despre locurile de munca din Romania, exploatarea legala sau ilegala la locul de munca si trucurile psihologice pe care le folosesc patronii ca sa ne convinga sa lucram peste program (cu plata suplimentara sau fara plata suplimentara) care, aplicate pe pielea mea au functionat cateva luni pana cand nu am mai resistat si am facut acel calcul al orelor despre care am scris un paragraf mai sus!
Dragă Anonim,
Legat de pățania ta cu marketing-ul la telefon e chair un subiect care poate fi dezvoltat. Și o persoană apropiată mie a avut de-a face cu ceva individ axat tot pe marketing la telefon și în legătură cu niște lucruri ce sunau și mai dubios. Am să încerc să discut subiectul în episodul următor.
În ceea ce privește serviciul, din păcate, ne place sau nu, suntem uneori forțați să acceptăm situații mai mult sau mai puțin corecte/juste. Unii angajatori știu cam care sunt perspectivele unora dintre angajați și, pe baza acestor informații își permit să abuzeze de poziția lor. Situația e din ce în ce mai gravă cu cât puterea economică a angajatului e mai mică.
Pe de altă parte, dependent de situație, poate uneori nu e bine să îți execiți scepticismul vădit, uneori e mai bine să știi când să joci cu cărțile pe masă și când să le ții doar pentru tine. Sper să nu ai probleme mari în a-ți găsi un nou loc de muncă!
Legat de donație, nu trebuie să te simți vinovat sau obligat și, mai important, pune familia pe primul plan, ei au nevoie mai mută de bani decât noi, mai ales în situația în care te afli în prezent! Momentan nu avem cheltuieli cu care nu ne-am putea descurca singuri, chiar dacă le plătim din propriile buzunare. Recompensa noastră majoră e mai degrabă momentele în care vedem că mai răzbatem cu ideile noastre, că lumea ne mulțumește pentru ceea ce facem sau că lucrurile aberante care domină scena publică de la noi mai primesc câte o replică sau sceptici ca tine nu-i lasă pe cei ce răspândesc aiureli să bălmăjească necontrolați.
În concluzie, dacă te putem ajuta cu ceva cu serviciul, nu ezita să ne scrii pe lista noastră de email, iar legat de donații, nu te simții obligat. Dacă vrei să ne ajuți, mai mult ar face să răspândești vestea-n cercurile tale de cunoscuți despre noi, eventual să convingi încă pe cineva să ne asculte.
Baftă și mersi pentru mesaj.
Am gasit un articol care, daca se bazeaza pe dovezi (nu am stat sa verific), ofera indicii despre sursa unor erori si exagerari ce trebuiesc privite cu scepticism:
http://www.descopera.ro/dnews/9947523-te-crezi-mai-destept-decat-esti-bravo-tie-s-ar-putea-sa-ai-succes-in-viata
In articol este vorba de tendinta naturala omului de a-si supraaprecia calitatile. Cred ca merita dezbatut acest aspect intr-o emisiune!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLF88E000DE8D1A59B&v=SMGz7yVasWo&feature=player_embedded#!
Averea bisericii!
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Am mai gasit un link cu o chestie minune:
http://tratamentecancer.com/?utm_source=adw-content&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=adw-co
Astia cu naturistele nu se dau batuti nicicum!
Tocmai am primit o reclama cu informatii interesante despre un produs:
http://www.secom.ro/multivitamine-si-minerale--vitamine--energizante--alive--secom--natures-way--spirulina--gi-0
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=404608916254481&set=a.163831406998901.33665.156455561069819&type=1&comment_id=1149540&ref=notif¬if_t=photo_reply&theater
Pe pagina de facebook ( ) a siteului farmaciata.ro este un concurs care promoveaza produsul din link-ul de mai sus: Alive! Concursul se desfasoara in modul urmator: trebuie sa le da like si sa raspunsi la o intrebare. Imaginea cu concursul a fost distribuit de peste 300 ori si are peste 300 like-uri.
Intamplator am dat si eu peste aceasta reclama si am simtit nevoia de a le pune cateva intrebari cu privire la ceea ce pretind (voi da copy-paste):
"de ce am nevoie de o absorbtie atat de rapida?"
"Toti acei nutrienti se absorb in circuitul sangvin in 20 minute?"
"Produsul costa 60 RON si il epuizez (conform recomandarii) in 10 zile ceea ce inseamna ca este mai rentabil sa cumpar niste alimente din piata (acestea, pe langa nutrienti imi dau si energie)! Chiar e necesar sa cheltuiesc 60 lei?"
"Faptul ca se absoarbe in 20 min, adica de 5 ori mai repede decat alte produse similare, inseamna ca toate acele alte produse similare nu ne ofera nutrienti care se absorb mai repede de 100 minute (5x20min-confrm reclamei dumneavoastra)?"
(ca o paranteza intre paranteze, intrerup sirul de comentarii pentru a pune o intrebare scepticilor: care sunt vitezele de absorbtie ale nutrientilor si cum ar putea fi accelerat acest proces de absorbtie pentru ca cei de la Secom sa ne ofere un un produs de 5 ori superior din punct de vedere al acestui "parametru"? - nu ma refer la toti nutrientii fiindca e ridicol, ci la vreo 2-3 din acel produs)
"Am facut o scurta verificare pe siteul Secom.ro si am vazut ca incredientele produsului au fost testate in laborator pentru a se asigura eficienta si puritatea! Unde gasesc informatii despre acele teste (ma intereseaza in special cele care au legatura cu eficienta)?"
"cum demonstrati ca (toate/sau majoritatea din) acele substante se absorb mai repede decat aceleasi substante din alte produse similare ? Care sunt studiile stiintifice despre incrediente? Daca este adevarat ceea ce pretindeti in legatura cu viteza de absorbtie a nutrientilor, de ce am nevoie de o astfel de absorbtie?"
Tot acest sir de intrebari pe pagina de facebool a siteului farmaciata.ro a primit un singur raspuns ceea ce arata ca nu erau pregatiti pentru astfel de intrebari! Iara raspunsul lor:
" Pentru mai multe detalii, va rugam sa luati legatura cu cei de la Secom, care va pot oferi informatiile de care aveti nevoie."
Sunt curios care va fi raspunsul celor de la Secom! Ce parere au scepticii despre acest gen reclame?
http://documentare.digitalarena.ro/cele-5-legi-ale-biologiei-a-3-a-revolutie-in-istoria-medicinei-2009/
Aberatii despre noua medicina germana (din cate imi amintesc si Cristian Roman a facut o emisiune despre un terapeut care sa bazat pe aceasta pseudomedicina).
V-am trimis o inregistrare cu reportofonul de la o prezentare a unui aparat minune care foloseste lumina polarizata si cromoterapia pentru a vindeca o gramada de boli (inclusiv cancer)! Sper ca veti da atentie materialelor trimise! Am luat si poze de la prezentari, o sa vi le trimit si pe acelea daca prezinta interes.
Astept confirmarea primirii emailului!
Avem. Dar n-am avut timp să analizăm materialele și să ne documentăm. O să tratăm subiectul în episodul 51.
Mulțumim de materiale și să rămâi sceptic!
Pe siteul http://www.coursera.org am gasit cursuri oferite de unele dintre cele mai mari universitati ale lumii. Acestea sunt in format video (cu subtritare in engleza si orice poate contribui pentru a le traduce in limba romana). Sunt si materiale auxiliare la curs in format pdp, pptx etc. Cursurile pot fi downloadate.
La finalul fiecarui curs poate fi obtinut un certificat de absolvire (nu prea am inteles inca in ce conditii, abia ieri am dat peste site).
Unele cursuri au inceput deja si le puteti accesa, pentru altele trebuie sa asteptam:
https://www.coursera.org/courses
Am inceput cursul "Networks: Friends, Money, and Bytes" pentru a testa siteul!
https://www.coursera.org/course/friendsmoneybytes
Sunt impresionat de calitatea lui. Se pare ca invatamantul universitar devine accesibil oricui.
Sunt in asteptarea unui curs care ma intereseaza si care va incepe in Octombrie. Cred va vor fi si altii interesati!
Doreste cineva sa verifice aceasta stire:
http://www.descopera.ro/dnews/10254080-premonitiile-exista-si-sunt-un-proces-biologic-afirma-un-nou-studiu
Povesteati ceva recent de conspiratii privind domeniul tehnologiei medicale oncologice... nu mai stiu exact in care episod, dar in ultimele 5.
Recomand acest articol privind eficacitatea screening-ului prin mamografie: http://www.bioportfolio.com/resources/pmarticle/253321/Why-Mammography-Screening-Has-Not-Lived-Up-To-Expectations-From-The-Randomised.html
De asemena, de la blogul "Bad Science", un alt sceptic... are ceva de zis privind :supiciunile: din domeniul farmaceutic: http://www.ted.com/talks/ben_goldacre_what_doctors_don_t_know_about_the_drugs_they_prescribe.html
buna, exista vreo iesire la bere/ocazie de socializare al oamenilor care asculta la asa ceva? Mi-ar distra sa ies la un moment dat la o bere stiind ca o sa fie 100% fara ezoterie. 🙂 meetup, anyone?
Bună idee! Noi ne mai ducem ocazional la prietenii noștri de la ASUR și ne gândeam să facem un fel de Petrecere de după Apocalipsă, dar am considerat că nu avem suficiente resurse să planificăm să iasă ceva bine.
Dacă vrei, putem planifica ceva și putem anunța chiar și-n podcast. Poate într-o sâmbătă pe undeva prin București?
La fel de bine, ești invitata noastră să organizezi un meepup, noi îl putem populariza. Poate ajungem să facem un eveniment de genul Skeptics in the Pub.
Ce zici?
Trecand prin arhiva mi-am amintit ca ati discutat acum cateva luni de treaba cu aciditatea si dieta si mi-am amintit ca analiza voastra a fost cam slaba. Am cautat si gasit niste explicatii mai interesanta si mai clare, in special asociate cu pH-ul metabolic.
Check it out:
Explicatie pentru incepatori: http://faculty.stcc.edu/AandP/AP/AP2pages/Units21to23/ph/howphmay.htm
Explicatie mai avansata:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3195546/
Altul: http://jn.nutrition.org/content/128/6/1051.full
Aceasta firma a sunat de nenumarate ori la bunica mea de 84 de ani si in ciuda faptului ca a spus ca nu doreste sa cumpere nimic doamna respectiva a insistat si a convins-o sa-i trimita acest produs din 10plante la un pret de 120ron si doar 100ml de continut lichid. Aceasta firma a abuzat de politetea bunicii mele si au insistat cu nesimtire sa-si vanda produsul. Cu ceva luni in urma am rugat-o pe acea doamna sa nu o mai sune pe bunica mea deoarece e fff batrana, are o pensie mica si nu doreste sa cumpere nimic. Evident, cererea mea a fost ignorata.
Va rog sa expuneti aceasta firma pentru ceea ce este, niste abuzatori si nesimtiti, ca sa nu cada si alti batrani in aceasta pacaleala.
Va multumesc anticipat!
salut, cum abordati din punct de vedere sceptic controversatele subiecte Rosia Montana si problema gazelor de sist?
Subiectele precum Roșia Montană sau exploatările gazelor de șist le abordăm din punct de vedere științific și încercăm să evităm răspunsurile emotive. Evident, la nivel personal avem atât preferințe politice cât și valori personale, dar, pentru un sceptic, baza oricărei discuții despre strategie sau decizie politică trebuie să pornească de la o informare corectă dpdv științific.
De exemplu, in discuțiile despre gazele de șist mulți oameni pornesc de la prezumția că apa folosită în exploatare devine inutilizabilă ca apă potabilă sau că procesul de extracție se bazează pe infiltrarea apei în pânza freatică. Însă corect ar fi să verifici întâi *dacă* aceste prezumții sunt corecte.
Hi guys,
I'm an Australian currently living in Romania (Brasov), unfortunately I can't speak the language. Do you know of any Romanian podcasts in English?
Anyhow, thought I'd reach out, keep up the good work and feel free to pop me an email if you feel like it.
Cheers, Rowan.
Hi Rowan,
There aren't any romanian podcasts in English, we're the only podcast on the market 🙂
There are many skeptical podcasts in English though, try searching for Skeptics Guide, Skeptics with a K and so on.
Thank you for saying hi, do tell your romanian friends to listen please 🙂
Rowan, we also host the podcast Skeptical Reporter, a short podcast on skeptical and science news from around the world which is in English and also contains a local news segment. It used to be weekly, but sometimes life takes up all the available time.
The feed is:
http://podcast.sceptici.ro/category/skeprep/feed/
Nu am reusit sa vad daca ati vorbit pana acum si despre karma si destin;
Am o gramada de prieteni, amici, cunostinte cu care am ajuns sa ma contrazic pt ca ei cred in karma si destin si eu o tin una si buna ca http://instagram.com/p/bNQMNyozuz/
iar ei nu si nu;
Inteleg ca acei criminali, hoti etc au de fapt o problema la creieras si sunt setati altfel pt a putea comite asa fapte dar oamenii normali, cum pot crede ca daca cineva killareste pe altcineva, e ceva normal pt ca asa i-a fost destinat si ca ala omorat de fapt si-a primit pedeapsa dintr-o viata anterioara;
come on suntem in 2014, chiar asa de limitati sa fie atatia oameni!?! ce se intampla?!?
ma puteti ajuta cu niste surse pe care le pot sharui? in limba romana ar fi super ca sa inteleaga si bunica;
eu in engleza am gasit cate ceva dar as fi tare bucuroasa daca ati vorbi chiar voi despre acest subiect!
thx. a lot guys, you rock!
Bună Cristina,
O să încercăm să îți răspundem în episodul următor, episodul 84 care va apărea pe 26 ianuarie.
P.S.: Am crezut și eu la un moment în chestia asta cu karma.
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V-am descoperit astazi dragilor... si m-am amuzat enorm ...
Sunt dependent de podcasturi si munca imi permite sa ascult 8-9 chiar 10 ore pe zi. Am ajuns la zi cu cele 12 podcasturi pe care le ascult si azi cautam ceva nou si m-am gandit sa vad daca este ceva de pe meleagurile mioritice ce-mi poate atrage atentia, ceva ce imi poate satisface nevoile auditive :). Asa v-am descoperit pe voi. Sincer... m-a atras logo-ul si numele.
Am ascultat 5 episoade astazi si vreau sa va felicit pentru ceea ce faceti si sa va spun sa "tineti sus munca buna".
Au fost 3-4 ocazii cand a trebuit sa ma opresc din munca si sa las sculele jos ca nu mai puteam de ras. Felul vostru de a pune punctul pe I imi place mult si ma bucur ca mai sunt oameni sceptici in Romania.
Promit ca dau o bere cand si daca ne v-om vedea vreodata. Pana atunci pun un cuvant bun pe iTunes si pe Facebook si pe alte retele de socializare.
Hai cu bucurie si... Ramanati Sceptici.
Ne bucurăm că ne-ai găsit și că ți-au plăcut episoadele anterioare. Acum că ai avut la dispoziție chiar și o sincopă la publicare din partea noastră (mii de scuze, pe viitor o să le anunțăm din timp), episoadele mai noi sunt mai bune sau mai proaste decât cele vechi?
În primele episoade la microfon au fost câteva schimbări până să ajungem la formula actulă cu mine, Miruna și Ovidiu la aproximativ 1 oră/episod; trecând prin mai multe episoade la rând, s-a pierdut ceva prin schimbări? S-a câștigat ceva? E vreo gazdă care crezi că ar trebui să revină/plece 🙂 ?
Apreciem susținerea și, din nou, ne cerem scuze pentru întârzieri în perioada mai-iulie (o să apară episodul 95 pe 20 iulie).
Salutare inca odata...
E ciudat cand vezi postari pe facebook cu subiecte care te lasa masca de la persoane destul de destepte si de la care ai anumite asteptari. Asa mi s-a intamplat acum 2 minute si imediat m-am gandit ca ar fi un subiect bun pentru emisiunea vostra. Lantisoare de chihlimbar pentru bebelusi: ( https://www.facebook.com/Lantisoare.de.bebe.CHIHLIMBAR/photos/a.571514009552959.1073741835.554341597936867/579909825380044/?type=1&theater). Cateodata ma intreb de ce mai platesc oamenii astia CAS-ul sau alte asigurari de sanatate.
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